June 09, 2008

CSM #03: Make your vote count: Abstain!

The 3rd CSM meeting ended about 30 minutes ago and we managed to get more issues passed for discussion with CCP. As per last meeting, votes were taken as to whether issues should be raised to CCP, rather than specific recommendations (These need to be written in the next 4 days).

Chat Logs for the second CSM meeting#03 are posted onto the (unofficial) Council of Stellar Management site. The Agenda can be seen here.

The CSM members now have 4 days to complete a detailed description of all issues raised so far, for submission to CCP.

The bad news is, the CSM spent a significant amount of time on process discussion around the issue of "Abstain" when a vote is called. This directly effected the meeting outcome on a vote. The specific effect discussed was in deciding on whether the majority vote for issues to go to CCP as either;
A) The yes majority required by count of members in the room,
B) or the majority of Yes vs. No votes.

Personally I find it abhorrent that
A) People fail to take a position after being expressly elected to do so, weakening the value of their vote to balance the council (in the case abstain effectively reduces number of people in the room) or simply failing to make a decision (in the case of majority in the room).
B) and We wasted so much time on the issue.

If you want to save yourself the pain of this discussion being re-opened at the end of the meeting, look out for the line;
"Serenity Steele > /emote signals to anyone reading the chat logs, that they may want to do something more productive with their life as this discussion comes up again."

When these sort of things happen It's really the sum of all my fears that the CSM will see a group elected who will- or can-not actually work together to make progress. Let's just hope it was a case of bad hair day!

1 comment:

Dave the Brave said...

It's a few months since you posted this, is this still an issue? Because if so, I'd love to ask what each candidate's stance on this is for the upcoming CSM election, since I wouldn't vote for anyone who would even consider abstaining.